Jump to Navigation
Home

Main menu

  • Home
  • News
  • Markets Map
  • Sentiments
  • Topics
  • Data
  • Comments
  • Images
  • Blog
  • About

Secondary menu

  • Latest News
  • Top Rated
  • Most Popular
  • Archive
  • Discussions
  • Memo to Stephen Harper in 2007 downplayed a Canadian...
  • SEC Official: Actually, The Scoreboard Reads Computers: 1...
  • U.S. lawmakers urge careful review of American-US Airways...
  • Hints of Bernanke’s departure adds to doubts on Fed policy
  • Will the Boeing and Airbus duopoly crack?
  • The rise of the global middle class
  • Dish abandons Sprint bid to focus on Clearwire
  • Business Majors Are The Most Underemployed Graduates In...
  • Could high-rises be built of wood?
  • A mindful approach to personal success

    JPMorgan, Goldman Keep Investors in Dark on European Debt Risk ; Net Position Disclosure Hides True Risk

    Wed, 11/16/2011 - 15:25 EDT - Mish's Global Economic Trend Analysis
    • RDF10

    Banks keep investors in the dark on trillions of dollars of derivatives risk by only reporting net exposure.

    Here is a net exposure example to show what I mean. Suppose I owe my sister Sue $250,000 and Uncle Ernie owes me $250,000. My net exposure would appear to be zero.

    But what if uncle Ernie is bankrupt or simply will never pay the loan back for any reason. I cannot tell Sister Sue, "I am not paying you back, collect from Uncle Ernie".

    Net exposure only works if counterparty risk is zero. In my example counterparty risk from uncle Ernie is 100%. So what is the counterparty risk at JP Morgan, Bank of America, Citigroup, and Goldman Sachs on tens of trillions of derivatives contracts?

    The answer is no one can possibly figure it out, on purpose, because banks are only required to disclose "net" exposure.

    JPMorgan, Goldman Keep Risk in Dark

    With that backdrop, please consider JPMorgan, Goldman Keep Italy Risk in Dark
    JPMorgan Chase & Co. (JPM) and Goldman Sachs Group Inc. (GS), among the world’s biggest traders of credit derivatives, disclosed to shareholders that they have sold protection on more than $5 trillion of debt globally.

    Just don’t ask them how much of that was issued by Greece, Italy, Ireland, Portugal and Spain, known as the GIIPS.

    As concerns mount that those countries may not be creditworthy, investors are being kept in the dark about how much risk U.S. banks face from a default. Firms including Goldman Sachs and JPMorgan don’t provide a full picture of potential losses and gains in such a scenario, giving only net numbers or excluding some derivatives altogether.

    ‘Funded’ Exposure

    Goldman Sachs discloses only what it calls “funded” exposure to GIIPS debt -- $4.16 billion before hedges and $2.46 billion after, as of Sept. 30. Those amounts exclude commitments or contingent payments, such as credit-default swaps, said Lucas van Praag, a spokesman for the bank.

    JPMorgan said in its third-quarter SEC filing that more than 98 percent of the credit-default swaps the New York-based bank has written on GIIPS debt is balanced by CDS contracts purchased on the same bonds. The bank said its net exposure was no more than $1.5 billion, with a portion coming from debt and equity securities. The company didn’t disclose gross numbers or how much of the $1.5 billion came from swaps, leaving investors wondering whether the notional value of CDS sold could be as high as $150 billion or as low as zero.

    Counterparty Clarity

    “Their position is you don’t need to know the risks, which is why they’re giving you net numbers,” said Nomi Prins, a managing director at New York-based Goldman Sachs until she left in 2002 to become a writer. “Net is only as good as the counterparties on each side of the net -- that’s why it’s misleading in a fluid, dynamic market.”

    Investors should want to know how much defaulted debt the banks could be forced to repay because of credit derivatives and how much they’d be in line to receive from other counterparties, Prins said. In addition, they should seek to find out who those counterparties are, she said.
    The "Investment-Grade" Non-Guarantee

    By the way, investors are kept in the dark on derivatives risk in general, not just on exposure to Europe.

    By now, everyone should know how useless an AAA-rated guarantee is, let alone "investment-grade" that may be one step above junk. How long did GM bonds sit as "investment-grade"?

    Nonetheless the article reports JPMorgan buys protection only from firms outside the five countries that are “either investment-grade or well-supported by collateral arrangements” as if that was supposed to alleviate concerns.

    "Well-supported by collateral" is one thing; relying on "investment-grade" is another.

    Uncle Ernie was investment-grade when I made the loan. He is bankrupt now. Greece was "investment grade" and Greece is bankrupt now.

    "Investment-grade" is a useless measure of risk  that "nets" to zero disclosure of the true-risk taken by derivatives-king JP Morgan, Godlman Sachs, Citigroup, Bank of America and any other bank attempting to pull the wool over investor's eyes with meaningless phrases instead of full disclosure.

    By the way, what are these organizations doing with tens-of-trillions of derivatives in the first place?

    Mike "Mish" Shedlock
    http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com
    Click Here To Scroll Thru My Recent Post ListMike "Mish" Shedlock is a registered investment advisor representative for SitkaPacific Capital Management. Sitka Pacific is an asset management firm whose goal is strong performance and low volatility, regardless of market direction.
    Visit http://www.sitkapacific.com/account_management.html to learn more about wealth management and capital preservation strategies of Sitka Pacific.

    • Original article
    • Login or register to post comments
     

    Related

    • U.S. Banks Face Rising Risk Of Contagion From Euro Crisis

      By Research Recap: U.S. banks could be greatly affected if contagion continues to spread beyond the stressed European markets (Greece, Ireland, Italy, Portugal, and Spain), according to Fitch Ratings.

    • The Rating Agency Endorsed BoomBustBlog Big Bank Bash Off Starts In 3...2...1...

      Bloomberg reports: Morgan Stanley, UBS, Goldman May Be Cut by Moody’s Quote:

    • Why Investors Should Ignore the Media

      It seems like the Feds and their relentless pursuit of a speedy economic recovery have pointed their direction towards the mass US media in order to capitalize on the slow June trading month.

    • The long shadow of Greece

      THE euro crisis began in Athens some two years ago as the full extent of its dire public finances first became apparent. Now it has turned full circle again. Along with the acute difficulties in constructing a much stronger firefighting fund to protect countries like Italy, especially while Silvio Berlusconi still remains in charge, the agony of Greece is the main reason why today’s summit in Brussels looks set to disappoint those expecting that it would deliver a fully worked-out solution.

    • Bank Of America At $5 Is Cheap But Still Troubled

      By BubbleBustInvesting.com:News doesn’t seem to be getting better for Bank of America (BAC).

    • How Bad Is Wall Street's Italian Debt Exposure?

      By Brian L. Wilson:The Wall Street Journal has recently published a string of articles in which it analyzed the SEC 10-Q filings of some of the big-name Wall Street firms to figure out their exposure to Italy.

    • Bank Of America Scrambles To Ease Investor Concerns

      By Trefis: Bank of America (NYSE:BAC) has taken some notable actions over the last few weeks – all of them clearly aimed at addressing the growing concerns among its investors regarding the bank’s capital adequacy.

    • How Smart Investors Are Playing JPMorgan Chase

      By Steven Kiel:JPMorgan (JPM) is widely recognized as one of the best run banks in the country. CEO Jamie Dimon is well respected and is seen as the top dog in the banking industry. However, even J.P. Morgan’s stock has suffered this year as the entire industry has hit hard times. Their stock is down 16% since the start of the year, underperforming the broad markets despite doing better than their competitors.

    • Banking on Bank Dividends? Just Look Outside the U.S.

      Jim Trippon submits:We all know how the bank dividend story goes. Big money center banks based here in the U.S. and several of their large European counterparts got drunk off the easy money, easy credit cocktail that flowed so freely from 2005-2007.

    Latest

    Rising air fares push up inflation
    Rising air fares push up inflation
    Memo to Stephen Harper in 2007 downplayed a Canadian casualty rate in Afghanistan up to 10 times higher than allies
    Memo to Stephen Harper in 2007 downplayed a...

    User login

    • Create new account
    • Request new password
    • Click on the icon to sign in with your social network login or enter your Bullfax.com login

    Our Blog

    • Oil Prices, India’s Inflation, Panama Canal and Bank Lending in Our News for Today 06/14/2013
    • SoftBank: Sprint to the finish
    • Royal Bank of Scotland, World Bank, European Stocks and Apple in Our Daily Round-Up for 06/13/2013

    Markets Map

    Markets Map

    Follow Us

    Follow Us on Facebook, Twitter, Google Plus and RSS LinkedIn Facebook Twitter Google Plus RSS
    S&P 500: 1651.81 0.77% FTSE: 6374.21 0.69% Nikk.: 13007.28 -0.2% DAX: 8229.51 0.17% HSI: 21225.881 -0% FX: EUR/GBP: 1.1672 USD/EUR: 1.3389 JPY/USD: 95.612 Commodities: Gold: 1368.50

    Bullfax.com - Market News & Analysis 2008-2011
    Contact Us | About Us | Terms & Conditions

    Follow Us on Facebook, Twitter, Google Plus and RSS LinkedIn Facebook Twitter Google Plus RSS .

    Secondary menu

    • Latest News
    • Top Rated
    • Most Popular
    • Archive
    • Discussions