Jump to Navigation
Home

Main menu

  • Home
  • News
  • Markets Map
  • Sentiments
  • Topics
  • Data
  • Comments
  • Images
  • Blog
  • About

Secondary menu

  • Latest News
  • Top Rated
  • Most Popular
  • Archive
  • Discussions
  • Federal Court dismisses challenge to admission of Chinese...
  • Fed officials dampen speculation of imminent bond tapering
  • FEMA offers aid to tornado victims
  • Committee nears final vote on immigration bill
  • Jamie Dimon's Fate in Shareholder Hands: JPMorgan...
  • Ask Matt: How do investment banks move markets?
  • Tories throw rebel backbencher a bone with support of sex...
  • Home Depot - Shares Become Too Expensive After Yet...
  • Fed officials dampen speculation of imminent bond tapering
  • New Life for the New Trade of the Decade

    Greenspan Says Congress Should Let Tax Cuts Expire

    Sat, 07/17/2010 - 09:39 EDT - curiouscatblog
    • Comments
    • Economics
    • Ethics
    • fed
    • federal debt
    • Financial Literacy
    • government
    • taxes

    Alan Greenspan made several huge errors while chairman of the Federal Reserve. Failing to deal with the massive risk taking and fraud by the member banks of the Federal Reserve was one. And supporting tax cuts for a country that was hugely in debt (while current deficits were still huge was another. Yes anyone can claim (and he did) future surpluses, but there had yet to be a single year of surplus, and obviously we would have been in deficit even before the tax cuts put us much much further in debt, history has shown .
    But Greenspan said government estimates project more than enough surplus funds to pay off the debt and reduce taxes too.
    That is either amazingly bad economic forecasting or a lie. My guess is he knew this wasn’t true. Which would make it a lie. If he really was that out of touch with economic reality, we have to question why we ever thought he had insight into the economy.
    Greenspan Says Congress Should Let Tax Cuts Expire
    WOODRUFF: On those tax cuts, they are due to expire at the end of this year. Should they be extended? What should Congress do?
    GREENSPAN: I should say they should follow the law and let them lapse.
    WOODRUFF: Meaning what happens?
    GREENSPAN: Taxes go up. The problem is, unless we start to come to grips with this long-term outlook, we are going to have major problems. I think we misunderstand the momentum of this deficit going forward.
    Related: Estate Tax Repeal (2006) – Charge My Government to My Kids (2007) – USA Federal Debt Now $516,348 Per Household
    Accepting that, I don’t agree with those that vilify his performance. He was Fed chairman from 1987-2006. He made some very bad decisions that cost people dearly. But it isn’t very surprising someone in such power for so long would make some very bad and costly decisions. My guess is he caved to pressure from political allies that reminded him how the current President Bush’s father blamed Greenspan’s decisions for his losing the Presidency. And so Greenspan was trying to do what he could to do what the then President Bush wanted. Not a very honorable explanation but people often do not make the most honorable choices.
    In 2003 he publicly disagreed with the wisdom of additional cuts:
    Alan Greenspan, the Federal Reserve chairman, today rebutted many of President Bush’s arguments in favor of big new tax cuts, saying that the economy probably does not need any short-term stimulus and warning that budget deficits could spiral out of control.
    Politicians, eager to give favors, at the expense of the future, went ahead and passed more tax cuts – weakening the country for their (and their political allies) short term benefit.
    Related: Estate Tax Repeal (2006) – Charge My Government to My Kids (2007) – USA Federal Debt Now $516,348 Per Household
    Greenspan’s thoughts on the economy, from his July 16th 2010 interview:

    WOODRUFF: So what do you think the GDP is going to be this year and next year?
    GREENSPAN: Well, it is going to be slow. The second quarter, which looked to be in April fairly robust, now looks to be down to 2.5 percent growth rate. And we have not yet got all the figures for the month of June. We are estimating and guessing at certain of these numbers.
    But there is no evidence that there is a big pick up coming, but there is also no evidence of an actual double dip. So, I think it is sluggish. We should be in the area maybe of 3 percent growth for the rest of this year, after we come out of this temporary slump.
    WOODRUFF: And when do you — what do you think the jobless rate, which is now 9.5 percent, is going to be a year from now?
    GREENSPAN: It will be lower, but not all that much lower. The strange fact about this is that what has kept the — part of the reason why the unemployment rate has stayed high, as the economy has come back, is there was an extraordinary amount of squeeze going on in the corporate sector having as is invariably the case a major expansion of output. They were not looking at their cost structure. They are now, and they squeezed it down to the point where probably it cannot go much lower.
    The very ill advised tax shifting from those earning money in 2001 – 2011 to those earning money later should not be extended. Even calling them cuts is not true. You cut taxes by cutting spending. If you run a deficit all you do by “cutting taxes” is shift the tax from today to your kids. We shouldn’t do that.
    Related: Greenspan Defends His Support of Tax Cuts (2005) – America Cannot Afford Tax Cuts (2001) – Greenspan has screwed up, and now he doesn’t know what to do

    • Original article
    • Login or register to post comments
     

    Related

    • A Washington Post Not-So-Much-Lovefest on the Bush Tax Cuts

      (Graphic above from Washington Post online:  Should Congress extend the Bush tax cuts?)

    • Greenspan Discusses US Budget Deficit and Tax Cuts: Video

    • The Long-Term USA Federal Budget Outlook

      The decisions over the past 30 years to pass huge huge tax bills to those in the future is unsustainable. Saying you cut taxes when all you actually do is postpone them is dishonest. However, many people go along with such false statements so politicians have learned to buy votes today by raising taxes on the future.

    • Would Going Over The Fiscal Cliff Really Be That Bad?

      Easily the most frustrating thing about being a long-term investor nowadays is how short-term focused Wall Street has become in recent years (or more accurately,  the last two decades). Quarterly earnings reports and whether companies slightly beat or slightly miss estimates made by a bunch of number-crunchers in New York result in huge share price volatility. Owners of real businesses would be the first to tell you that small quarter-to-quarterly fluctuations in sales and profits are far less important than the long-term strength, viability, and competitive position of their companies.

    • A Longer-Term View of the “Cliff”

    • The Weirdness of 10-Year Deficit Reduction

      By James Kwak The Gang of Six plan proposes to reduce the cumulative deficit by $3.6-3.7 trillion over ten years relative to the CBO’s March 2011 baseline. Everyone’s excited about it. Four trillion dollars! Hooray!

    • Strange Response to the CBO Outlook from the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget

      As previously noted, according to the Congressional Budget Office, if congress sticks by current law the fiscal situation is more-or-less okay for the next 20-25 years. It’s also true that according to the CBO and most everyone you meet, Congress seems unlikely to do that. So the message here should be: “Congress! Don’t live up to your bad reputation!

    • Government & forecasting

      Hopi Sen asks question that’s both intelligent and naïve:Why do governments bother making such definitive predictions of the future? Why not adopt a system of range forecasting, where we work within assumptions of probability of different outcomes?

    • Credit Crisis the Result of Planned Looting of the World Economy

      Fluke? Credit crisis was a heist by James Jubak What we’re now living through, though, is the result of a conscious, planned looting of the world economy. Its roots stretch back decades. And it wouldn’t have been possible without the contrivances of the bought-and-paid-for folks who sit in Congress.

    Latest

    Apple Avoids Paying $17 Million In Taxes Every Day Through A Ballsy But Genius Tax Avoidance Scheme
    Apple Avoids Paying $17 Million In Taxes Every...
    Beloved Night Spot Pink Elephant Is Coming Back To The Hamptons This Summer
    Beloved Night Spot Pink Elephant Is Coming Back...

    User login

    • Create new account
    • Request new password
    • Click on the icon to sign in with your social network login or enter your Bullfax.com login

    Our Blog

    • Did Iceland make it through the crisis?
    • Marks & Spenser, Bank Loans in China, Vodafone and Asian Stocks in Our News for Today 05/21/2013
    • Actavis to acquire Warner Chilcott in $5bn pharmaceutical deal

    Markets Map

    Markets Map

    Follow Us

    Follow Us on Facebook, Twitter, Google Plus and RSS LinkedIn Facebook Twitter Google Plus RSS
    S&P 500: 1669.16 0.17% FTSE: 6803.87 0.71% Nikk.: 15381.02 0.13% DAX: 8472.20 0.19% HSI: 23366.369 -0.54% FX: EUR/GBP: 1.1741 USD/EUR: 1.2908 JPY/USD: 102.48 Commodities: Gold: 1376.05

    Bullfax.com - Market News & Analysis 2008-2011
    Contact Us | About Us | Terms & Conditions

    Follow Us on Facebook, Twitter, Google Plus and RSS LinkedIn Facebook Twitter Google Plus RSS .

    Secondary menu

    • Latest News
    • Top Rated
    • Most Popular
    • Archive
    • Discussions